This is a summary of the "averaging" thread that took place from about July 1999 to November 1999 in www.sci.geo.satellite-nav. All information here is readily verifiable by reading through the full text in www.deja.com. I have summarized this and made it available to avoid repitition. 1. Someone asked whether averaging improved accuracy. 2. Sam Wormley said that it did, so long as the readings were statistically independent. People like Joe Mehaffey were to soon jump on this bandwagon. It is true in statistics that some formula that can be used to predict accuracy only work if the points are statistically independent. They incorrectly generalised this to say that NO improvement whatsoever was achievable with points that weren't totally statistically independent. At the time, Sam (and others, including myself) believed that the points only became statistically independent after 15 minutes, which would mean that an average for less than 15 minutes would produce NO reduction in the effects of S/A. 3. I disagreed with Sam's assertion that no improvement was possible with statistically dependent points. 4. I gave an intuitive example as to why it was better to take an average than either of two unknown statistically dependent points. 5. They still didn't understand why they were wrong, and thought that my example was just one example, it didn't work in general. 6. I created a mathematical proof that showed why it was also true in general. 7. They still didn't understand the maths, and Joe resorted to abuse as a substitute for alternative maths, or finding some error in my own. At one point Sam tried quoting the Mean Central Tendency theorem, still missing the point completely. 8. Andrew Kalinowski created his own mathematical proof, based on an incorrect assumption, that "proved" that averaging made the accuracy WORSE. Both Sam and Joe somehow managed to immediately see the relevance of this maths and supported such a ludicrous proposition. 9. The matter was finally resolved, not by them understanding the mathematical flaws, but by David Wilson posting empirical data that showed that I was right, averaging stastically dependent data improved accuracy. 10. In attempt to save face, Sam and Joe immediately started to bluff that what they meant all along was that short term averaging produced no worthwhile/significant/etc benefits. This wasn't helped by some comments by David Wilson, who despite doing no cost analysis or usage analysis had decided that short-term averaging wasn't worthwhile (the figures tell a very different story, depending on waypoint usage and cost function). The only contributions to this thread that were actually accurate and helpful came from: 1. Paul Edwards, who initially realised that averaging statistically dependent points would offer some improvement (although he was unable to quantify how much). Also (later) for analysis of data to produce a complete set of 16 graphs. 2. Dave Martindale who pointed out the geometric advantages afforded by averaging. 3. James Giles for realising that one of the big benefits was not so much the average reduction, but the effect on the maximum error, and doing data analysis of same. 4. John Galvin, for providing empirical data. 5. David Wilson, for both data and analysis. 6. Sam Wormley, for making some raw data available for others to analyse. Questions still unanswered: 1. What is the correct mathematical analysis (theorems or fomulas) that could have seen this issue resolved right at the start? 2. Some empirical data to show how much time is saved from real searches of real tourist waypoints.